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Perhaps the Manchester head of school should spend some time out here with practices and understand the economic realities of practice before suggesting that salaries should increase to recompense students for the astronomical debt levels they incur whilst studying at his institiution.

It is time for all schools of architecture, ARB and the RIBA to get together and completely revise the way that architecture is taught.

The courses are too long and seem to be totally divorced from the profession in what they teach. Students leave Uni with fundamentally unrealistic expectations about what we do in this profession and what they might reasonably expect to get back from their investment, Oh and it's a load more than 60k if you include living costs, year out costs as an 'intern', and final review presentation costs, probably closer to 90-100k!