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In my experience, Martha Schwatz’s comments are both well observed and still valid. That said, there is a certain lack of context about them, which I feel rather undermines the article. While I don’t see Sarah Gaventa’s views as being necessarily opposed and certainly agree with much of what she says, I do feel they are a little optimistically naïve about current attitudes to the design of exterior space. Correct me if I’m wrong, Denna, but I felt there was an underlying implication in your comments that ‘landscaping’ is an afterthought and not worthy of significant funds or due consideration in the design process. If so, this is fairly typical of the trivialising of the design of exterior spaces, which is so common in the UK and seemed to be the main gist of Martha’s comments!

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